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Mar 8, 2021

I'm glad you're with me for this particular episode with Lisa Mustard. Lisa is a great person to get to know, and I'm excited about what she is doing, which is pretty unique - she is offering podcourses. Lately, I've been working on getting some continuing education credits online. Well, Lisa has built an entire business around that. So, we talk all about how podcourses could be a great way to diversify income in your private practice. Tune in as we also touch on imposter syndrome, marketing, and navigating NBCC credentialing.

Meet Lisa Mustard

My name is Lisa Mustard and I am a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in South Carolina. I am also a wife to Billy, mama to two daughters, puppy wrangler, lover of health, wellness, and fitness, and personal development junkie. I started this show because I was bored with the traditional modes of continuing education and professional development. I yearned for convenient education that was fun, interesting, inspiring, helpful, and easily accessible anywhere, anytime. And I couldn’t find what I was looking for, so I decided to create it. When I am not podcasting or seeing clients, I am in the gym, on a run or walk, spending time with my family, or wrangling the lovable, yet incorrigible Lulu, our Australian Shepherd/Pitbull puppy.

The Therapy Show

The Therapy Show with Lisa Mustard provides value by bringing in-depth and exciting interviews with experts, experienced practitioners, and other interesting people within the world of talk therapy. Lisa's hope is that her guests positively impact you, your work and career, and ultimately your clients. Guests range from specialists and experts in the clinical world, as well as those who have pivoted their skill sets and are doing something different and unique now, like writing books, motivational speaking, creating an online business, doing consulting work, health and wellness coaching, life coaching or they are other helping professionals who can give a different perspective when working with specific issues or populations.

Creating Podcourses

In January 2020, Lisa put together a packet and sent it off to NBCC. People told Lisa that it would take a couple of months for them to approve her. Well, because of Covid, it took them ten months to get back to Lisa. During this time, Lisa started to doubt herself and her abilities. Eventually, imposter syndrome kicked in. However, Lisa was approved! Next, Lisa needed to hire people to help her with all the techie stuff that makes her head want to explore. Overall, Lisa loves creating podcourses. To get started, Lisa reached out to people who she knew personally that are experts in their field. She told them to throw together three to five objectives; she interviews them and even pays a small fee. The rest is history! 

Getting NBCC Credentials

Getting NBCC credentials can be complicated. Let's say you already have a course. Next, look at how the NBCC needs your course to fit their model. If you already have a course, you can just look at it and retool it. Otherwise, you need to figure out how to meet their requirements. If you don't have a course already, it may be easier to check the requirements first and then create your course around the types of things they are looking for.

The most challenging part for Lisa was making sure that what they needed from her was on the website. There's a lot of work to be done, and it needs to be consistent. For instance, your evaluation survey needs to be specific, or else it won't get approved. They pretty much tell you what you need to have on there, but they work with you. NBCC will help you massage it to get it to where it needs to be. Another challenging part of the process is marketing; when you create something, you have to figure out how to get it out in the world.

Imposter Syndrome

Every single day Lisa has thoughts about being an imposture. After taking a strengths test, Lisa found that she's really good at connecting with people and achieving things. That totally makes sense because Lisa enjoys connecting with people. She loves to listen, and that's what makes her a great therapist. Plus, Lisa likes to help other people shine their light. Basically, she is looking for those people that are the experts that want to get out there and shine their light and share what they know. Of course, Lisa will make sure that everything they're presenting is research-based and have references. Now, Lisa comes from a place of needing to be the conduit of the information, not so much the expert. That way, the imposter syndrome tends to go to the back-burner.

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